Tuesday, July 5, 2011

7 Trumpets of Chapters 8 & 9

By Pastor David Rose

The sixths seal and all the way up to the sixths trumpet are the same events. The seventh seal and the seventh trumpet are the same events. These trumpets could also have a spiritual application as well as a natural application as Pastor Don Evens suggest in his book “the book of revelation.”

6And the seven angels which had the seven trumpets prepared themselves to sound. 7The first angel sounded, and there followed hail and fire mingled with blood, and they were cast upon the earth: and the third part of trees was burnt up, and all green grass was burnt up.

I have heard some suggest that the first trumpet was world war one. They say this because this was the first war to use bombs. They believe that the hail and fire mixed with blood symbolizes missiles and bombs going off. This destroyed a lot of the trees and grass and even wiped out whole cities. I can’t disprove this statement. But I just feel in my spirit there is more to this than meets the eye.

Another theory is this. That the trumpets have a spiritual application also. That is that the one third destruction spoken of in this verse is demonic. Since many of the prophecies in Revelation are symbolic, could it be that the trumpets are also symbolic as where most of the seals? If this is the case, then the seals and trumpets could be exactly the same events just from different view points. For instance in 1 peter 1:24 it speaks of men as grass. And in Dan. 4:10-15 it speaks of trees as world leaders. So this trumpet could in essence be saying that there will be great destruction among our leaders in the world. The imagery of hail and fire could mean wars and violence. Or this verse could be taken at face value and mean exactly what it looks like it says. Both thoughts are very possible.

Here we see hail and fire mingled with blood. Is this a precursor to an actual meteor falling to earth. Many times we see small derbies falling before the meteor falls there is smaller particles that go before it.

Take for instance that in China around 1490 their were 10,000 people killed by a hail of raining stones that some astronomers said were small debris from a large asteroid that had broken up entering our earths atmosphere. Was this the first trumpet? I don’t think so. I believe this is an example of what will happen on a much larger scale when that trumpet is blown. I cant help but think that maybe this trumpet has already blown and we have not recognized it. The reason I say this is there are so many events that could fit this description.

8And the second angel sounded, and as it were a great mountain burning with fire was cast into the sea: and the third part of the sea became blood; 9And the third part of the creatures which were in the sea, and had life, died; and the third part of the ships were destroyed.

Now this verse I have heard that it could have been world war two. They say that a mushroom cloud from an Atom bomb could look like a mountain burning with fire. And they say that the sea becoming blood symbolizes all the lives that were lost out at sea. They say that exactly one third of all Naval ships in World War Two were destroyed.

Another view from a spiritual point of view is that the second trumpet may be speaking of people when referring to the sea because in Rev. 17:15 people are referred to as “many waters.” The mountain burning with fire could be speaking of a kingdom or political power. Such as Daniel refers to Christ kingdom in Dan. 2:34,35 Keep in mind that satan is trying to counter-fit and copy every thing that Christ did. The section speaking of “the third part of the ships” being destroyed tells me that this part is definitely a physical thing that is yet to happen in the near future. Does this mean there is no spiritual application? No! This could still be one of those double prophecies with duel meanings as I believe they are. I am quite sure there are many spiritual parallels to many of the prophecies in the Bible. We can have trumpets in the spiritual as well as in the physical. Look for example the prophecy concerning the Anti-Christ. First in the spiritual. The spirit of the Anti-Christ sets himself up as God in the human heart. The Bible tells us that we are the temple of the Holy Ghost. Yet today there is an Anti-Christ or false Christ living in many people today. He the Anti-Christ has set himself up in God’s temple not made my hands but by God himself (referring to man). This fake Jesus is a worldly, lukewarm, sin loving and excepting all religions kind of Christ. I also believe in the literal scriptural prophecy of an actual Anti-Christ that will inhabit a human body and rule the world for 31/2 years.

Take for instance comet shoemaker-levy 9 in July of 1994. The comet fragmented into 21 pieces before it smashed into Jupiter. When it did hit Jupiter, it left a crater large enough to place two planets the size of earth in them. Maybe this explains what is happening in the first trumpet with the hail mixed with fire. Could this actually be fragments of the mountain burning with fire that is coming in the second trumpet? Just as the comet that hit Jupiter had fragments go before it. If this comet hits any of these deep water oil wells it could be the fulfillment of this prophecy. The BP oil well spill caused the water to look like blood from the air. And it killed everything in its path. A comet hitting the earth could upset the tectonic plates of our planet. Even with all of our sophisticated science we still can not predict with 100% accuracy whether or not an asteroid will hit us or not. Asteroid 1989 FC missed earth by only six hours on March 23,1989. But the worse thing about it was that it was not detected until after it had passed by our planet. That means if it had hit us we would not have seen it coming. We have been hit in the past by metors this is probably what help cause the global flood in Genesis. Take this other example of a metor impact in Siberia, Russia in 1908. When this thing hit, it destroyed about 80 million trees over a 830 mile radius.

10 And the third angel sounded, and there fell a great star from heaven, burning as it were a lamp, and it fell upon the third part of the rivers, and upon the fountains of waters; 11 And the name of the star is called Wormwood: and the third part of the waters became wormwood; and many men died of the waters, because they were made bitter.

First I will cover the spiritual application. Stars have sometimes referred to demons. The fact that this is burning like a lamp, could be telling us that there will be false light or revelation in the end days. Men’s minds will be darkened because they hate the true light. The waters again referring to people. Mens hearts are poisoned against the truth and become bitter against God. 2 Tim. 3:1-5

With the literal interpretation we see the star falling on land and effecting our drinking water supply. Keep in mind this is only one third of the world. It is almost like a warning to the people of earth to repent. When the vials are poured out it will be over all the earth. Some say that this was the Chernobyl Nuclear disaster in the Soviet Socialist’s Republic in 1986. The reason many thought that this was a fulfillment of the third trumpet is because the Russian word for Chernobyl is Wormwood. Thousands died because it poisoned the drinking water and thousands died from the radiation poisoning as well. But now we also have the Japanese earthquake that caused a lot of Nuclear damage. The media was saying that it may be worse than the Chernobyl disaster. The one thing I think is missing in this fulfillment is the burning star burning like a lamp falling from heaven. Could it have only been spiritual? Or could we be looking for a literal comet falling to earth? I think God is big enough to make a spiritual and literal meaning in any of his prophecies.

12 And the fourth angel sounded, and the third part of the sun was smitten, and the third part of the moon, and the third part of the stars; so as the third part of them was darkened, and the day shone not for a third part of it, and the night likewise.

This could be caused from smoke from volcanic fires burning. The smoke could be so intense that it blocks out the light of the sun and in the night the reflection of the moon. I remember hearing about desert storm when they had all those oil well fires in Kuwit burning, the smoke from those fires caused it to look like night time during the day. What about the second largest volcanic eruption of this century? In the Philipines on June 15, 1991. This shot hot ash and smoke out in the air for hundreds of miles. A year earlier they had an earthquake that measured a magnitude of 7.8. Of course the smoke of one of these things going off could block out the suns light for quite a while.

13 And I beheld, and heard an angel flying through the midst of heaven, saying with a loud voice, Woe, woe, woe, to the inhabiters of the earth by reason of the other voices of the trumpet of the three angels, which are yet to sound!

Here is where things begin to really pick up pace. Things are about to get really, really bad.

Revelation 9

1 And the fifth angel sounded, and I saw a star fall from heaven unto the earth: and to him was given the key of the bottomless pit. 2 And he opened the bottomless pit; and there arose a smoke out of the pit, as the smoke of a great furnace; and the sun and the air were darkened by reason of the smoke of the pit. 3 And there came out of the smoke locusts upon the earth: and unto them was given power, as the scorpions of the earth have power.

One school of thought is that these are chinese solder’s coming to battle. The Chinese ruler Mao Tsetung said that he could field an army of 200 million soldiers. The prophecy in Rev. 16:12 is now possible since we can now cut off the water supply to the Euphrates river for the kings of the east to invade Israel. These are the best descriptions or interpretations that I can find. It is either literal kings of the earth or demonic beings. My thought on it, is that I believe it will be 200 million Chinese soldiers. But I do like to keep an open mind to anything that sounds like there might be a good interpretation. I like to ask my self very hard questions when researching scriptures so that I don’t just take the easy interpretation (though it is probably right.) I want to make sure it is my own revelation and not some one else’s.

Here a star falls from heaven to earth. This star has a personality, for it says “to him” was given the key of the bottomless pit. Out of the pit arose smoke like a great furnace. This swarm of locust could look just like smoke. Just like a swarm of bees from a distance, as well as locust can look like smoke. In the word “locusts” are used to describe demons. We all know that demons are operating in this world and causing people to sin. But this is where demons are not in the fourth dimension trying to influence us anymore, but they actually cross over into the third dimension of flesh and blood. How? We know that Angles or Demons (fallen angles) can manifest in our dimension and interact at will for the word tells us in Heb. 13:2 that sometimes when we entertain strangers we are actually entertaining Angles. I have also heard stories of people that have had encounters with occult forces and demons that would physically attack them. This is how I see this verse unfolding. Satan and his demons realize that now there is nothing left to loose and man kind has rejected God so they come out of hiding and savagely attack God’s creation that has rejected him.

In a book by Todd Burpo called “Heaven is for Real” on page 136-137 Mr. Burpo explains a conversation that took place one day in a car with his son that had died and gone to heaven. This is an exerpt from that book, it is very interesting to say the least and backs up what I believe God may have shown me. Burpo’s six year old son says to his dad, “Dad, did you know there’s going to be a war?”

“What do you mean?” Were we still on the heaven topic? I wasn’t sure. “There’s going to be a war, and it’s going to destroy this world. Jesus and the angels and the good people are going to fight against Satan and the monsters and the bad people. I saw it.”
I thought of the battle described in the book of Revelation, and my heartbeat stepped up a notch. “how did you see that?”

“In heaven, the women and the children got to stand back and watch. So I stood back and watched.” Strangely, his voice was sort of cheerful, as though he were talking about a good move he’d seen. “But the men, they had to fight. And Dad, I watched you. You have to fight too.”

Try hearing that and staying on the road. Suddenly, the sound of the tires whirring on asphalt seemed unnaturally loud, a high whine.

And here was this issue of “heaven time” again. Before, Colton had talked about my past, and he had seen “dead” people in the present. Now he was saying that in the midst of all that, he had also been shown the future. I wondered if those concepts – past, present, and future – were for earth only. Maybe, in heaven, time isn’t linear.

But I had another, more pressing concern. “You said we’re fighting monsters?”

“Yeah,” Colton said happily. “like dragons and stuff.” I’m not one of those preachers who camps out on end times prophecy, but now I remembered a particularly vivid section of Revelation:

In those days men will seek death and will not find it; they will desire to die, and death will fell from them. The shape of the locusts was like horses prepared for battle. On their heads were crowns of something like gold, and their faces were like the faces of men. They had hair like women’s hair, and their teeth were like lions’ teeth. And they had breastplates like breastplates of iron, and the sound of their wings was like the sound of chariots with many horses running into battle. They had tails like scorpions, and there were stings in their tails. Their power was to hurt men five months.

For centuries theologians have mined these kinds of passages for symbolism: maybe the combination of all those different body parts stood for some kind of country, or each one stood for a king dome of some sort. Others have suggested that “breastplates of iron” indicate some kind of modern military machine that John had no reference point to describe.

But maybe we sophisticated grown-ups have tried to make things more complicated than they are. Maybe we are too educated, too “smart,” to name these creatures in the simple language of a child: monsters.”

The hedron collider or CERN, is a machine that is suppose to recreate the big bag effect. But anyone that has a brain knows they can’t really be using that program for that. Why would some one try to start another big bang? (Our galaxy was not created by a big bang, but by a spoken word), If they did try to recreate creation, it would totally destroy us by recreating another parallel universe. Thus destroying the present one. They are messing with other dimensions. I think it is interesting to note that CERN has a statue of Shiva on their front yard. Shiva is the god of the dead. The statue of Shiva is doing the dance of creation and of destruction according to experts author Tom Horn, author of the book “Apollyon Rising 2012.”

Make no mistake about it, I will say on record that as these UFO sighting continue to grow I will shout loud and clear, this is a satanic delusion sent to lead people away from the truth that is found in Christ. There is no intelligent life on other planets. There is very little on this one, by the looks of things. Remember I am not saying dogmatically what will happen. But I am looking at what the enemy is expecting and preparing for, and then searching scripture for insight. What I have found out has shocked and amazed me.

4 And it was commanded them that they should not hurt the grass of the earth, neither any green thing, neither any tree; but only those men which have not the seal of God in their foreheads. 5 And to them it was given that they should not kill them, but that they should be tormented five months: and their torment was as the torment of a scorpion, when he striketh a man.

Many people that have been reportedly abducted by Aliens have reported that they have been tortured, and then been told it was for the benefit of humanity and that they were chosen. They have supposedly had experiments done on them, such as sperm and or eggs taken from them. This sounds crazy and off the wall until one considers that these stories are coming in from all over the world by the millions, and they are all saying the same thing. These beings are telling people that all religions are the same and that they were responsible for raising Christ from the dead. A few Christians that were young in their faith, said that when these things tried to abduct them, they cried out to Jesus and the abduction stopped immediately. Most abductees report smelling sulfur when they see these things up close. Lets see, where else would one smell sulfur? I know one place, that has lots of it, Hell!

6 And in those days shall men seek death, and shall not find it; and shall desire to die, and death shall flee from them. 7 And the shapes of the locusts were like unto horses prepared unto battle; and on their heads were as it were crowns like gold, and their faces were as the faces of men. 8 And they had hair as the hair of women, and their teeth were as the teeth of lions. 9 And they had breastplates, as it were breastplates of iron; and the sound of their wings was as the sound of chariots of many horses running to battle. 10 And they had tails like unto scorpions, and there were stings in their tails: and their power was to hurt men five months.

Some bible teachers say this is speaking of F16 fighters or other types of military planes. That does not settle right with what I believe the Word is trying to show us. I don’t think he saw it through the glass of a fighter plane either. Or he would have said a man riding in a flying chariot or something like that. There are many pictures of flying objects in many ancient Egyption drawings. What were these round disks with wings flying over the people in these drawings? They are in the mayan drawings, astek drawings, Egyption drawings and more. Is history trying to warn us about something that had happened in the past? Does the word of God give us any insight into what happened back during those days. Will understanding this past help us decode some of the bible prophecies to come. Could it be that in the very last days after the Christians are taken out that the earth and it’s inhabitants will collide with the spiritual? What I mean by that is that maybe those things that we can’t see demons and creatures of hell actually cross over into this dimension. The word tells us that the abyss will open up.

11 And they had a king over them, which is the angel of the bottomless pit, whose name in the Hebrew tongue is Abaddon, but in the Greek tongue hath his name Apollyon.

I have heard one ministry say that this king “Apollyon” is Sudam Husan. This can’t be because Sudam is no king over the bottomless pit. We are speaking of a devil. A fallen Angel. Remember who the freemasons are waiting for? They are waiting for the arrival of Apollyon! Look at your dollar bill. This one that is to come will have human genes. But there is a lot of stuff going on that we should be taking notes. For one, I think I spoke of this earlier, but will say it again. When they found the tomb of Gilgamesh (many scholars believe that Gilgamesh and Nimrod are one and the same) the military moved in and took control over it first before letting the archeologists in to work on it. What did the government want with this archeological find? Since when are they concerned with archeology? They are suppose to be concerned with protecting our nation. Could it be that they wanted Gilgamesh for his DNA to bring back this guy, through cloning? I don’t know, I’m just trying to figure out what they are up to. We have the technology, they even brag about the ability that they can bring back the wooly mamath or any other extinct animal. They have created a mouse with human brain cells, a pig with human blood and they have even grown a human ear on the back of a mouse. This is just the beginning of the ice burg. They are already trying to create human clones in other countries by using DNA. Could this be where Maytrai comes from? It is my conviction that cloned animals or people or transhumans (men spliced with animal DNA to create totally new life forms) are life forms totally unauthorized by God. And being that they are unauthorized life forms by God they would have no soul. This would allow demons to occupy without any resistance from a living soul. I believe that the Anti-Christ, who ever he may be will not have to share a body with a human spirit, but be completely possessed with satan through and through. I have not come to this conclusion on my own but have listened also to ex-satanic priest that have become Christians that are now trying to warn the Christians of the occult plot to use science to bring back their gods. Who knows if maybe one of these politicians is actually some one that has been genetically created from old DNA? Would a human being look any different today than he did five thousand years ago? I don’t think so! Who would be able to tell? Not that a lot of this really matters at all in the grand scheme of things, because as Christians we will be protected from the Anti-Christ and his demons. I did not say that we would not be persecuted by wicked men who hate God. But devils themselves, we have power over. The important thing to know is we must love, serve and trust Christ Jesus to save us. Know that the Anti-Christ will show his head just before we are taken out of here. After that, if you are not saved, it will be the most terrifying days that planet earth has ever seen or ever will again. So I urge everyone reading this to get right with God right away.

I know that the beast spoken of in Revelation chapter 17 is referring to a world kingdom. Dan. 7:17, 23 But according to Author Tom Horn, he says it could also be referring to Nimrod as the Anti-Christ resurrected through DNA cloning? “The beast that thou sawest was (he was alive on the earth), and is not(is now dead); and shall ascend out of the bottomless pit (comes out of the pit to fill his body that has been prepared for him), and go into perdition: and they that dwell on the earth shall wonder, whose names were not written in the book of life from the foundation of the world, when they behold the beast that was, and is not, and yet is. Could this be another one of those double prophecies? I believe this is not only referring to the Anti-Christ mortal wound that is healed but, is also the revived Roman empire. We know that the beast is used interchangeably between the fourth kingdom and the Anti-Christ.

Verses 12-16 have said this is a 200,000,000 man Chinese army. The horses that are spoken of are Army tanks and other military equipment that John does not know how to describe in adequate words. Many scholars all have varying opinions, but most of them that I know believe it to be the Chinese army of 200,000,000. This could be true. But it also be that maybe this 200,000,000 army could literaly be an army right out of the pit of a literal hell? We have been told that it is the Christians and the Holy Spirit that is keeping the devil in check here on earth. But what about when we are taken out. No Holy Spirit, no Christians equals no restraints for demonic activity or manifestation. Jesus tells us that satan comes to steal, kill and destroy. What will happen when every last obstacle is taken out of his way?

Even after all this God word tells us that people still did not repent of their wicked deeds. The word warns us not to hold the truth in unrighteousness, but to obey what we hear. We need to walk sober in these last days.

Vials

The seals 1-6 are opened and the trumpets 1-7 sound before the rapture of the church. The vials happen after we are taken out as these are the wrath of God. See the chapter on the rapture. All these things look scary but God promises protection from these things that are coming. At the end of the sixths seal and the seventh trumpet is when God loosens His Wrath upon all man kind, but takes out His bride just before the vials are poured out. For God has not appointed us to wrath. “For God hath not appointed us to wrath, but to obtain salvation by our Lord Jesus Christ,” 1 Thessalonians 5:9

The word tells us in the last days their will be earthquakes all over the world. Some of these earth quakes will be so powerful that they will cause the mountains to fall down and the valleys to rise. The islands will sink or be flooded over and some will be hit so hard they will move from their place. The sun will be darkened and the stars shall fall from the sky to earth. Mens hearts shall fail them for fear of things coming upon the earth. Rev. 6:12 Great Quake, Rev. 8;5 An Earthquake, Rev. 11:13 Great Quake, Rev. 11:19 an Earthquake,

Rev. 6:12 Sun becomes black, Rev. 16:10 Sun is darkened

Rev. 11:19 Geat Hail, Rev. 16:21 Great Hail

Rev. 6:12 Every mountain and Island are moved out of their places. Rev. 16:20 Islands flee away and mountains cannot be found.

Rev. 6:17 Great day of God’s wrath come. Rev. 11:18 God’s wrath is come. Rev. 19:15 Wrath of Almighty God.

How many times can these things happen? They must be referring to the same thing. How many times can the wrath of God come? How many times can every mountain and Island flee away? This should convince us that these seals and trumpets are overlapping. In fact some of the sixths and seventh seal overlap into the vials of God’s wrath.

So what happens after God pours out His Wrath? Lets look now at the vials of God’s Wrath in Revelation chapter 16.

The first vial when it is poured out upon the earth, those that have received the mark break out with grievous sores. This could be because of the harmful effects of the electronic device in their bodies.

When the second vial is poured out, it causes the sea to become blood red, and every thing living in the sea dies. And when the third vial is poured out the fountains and water to the color of blood. This could have been caused from the second and third trumpet. The trumpets only effected one third of the world, but when the vials are poured out that is when the damage caused by the trumpets becomes compounded. The description of the second and third trumpets sounds like meteors. If they fall to earth and fracture the earths crust, this could cause major even cataclysmic tectonic plate shifting. Volcanos could erupt, oil wells could fracture into the land and sea causing the sea to turn to what looks like blood and the lakes and springs to turn the color of red also. During the gulf oil crises aerial photos of the sea looked dark red.

When the fourth vial is poured out, it is poured out on the sun and this causes men to be scorched with great heat. We are told by NASA that between 2011 and 2012 we will be hit with many solar flairs by the sun. This could cause earthquakes, volcanic eruptions, whole nation black outs and more. These solar flairs could cause men to be burned and cause houses and other structures to catch on fire. Jesus warned us about all these things.

When the fifth vial is poured out, it is poured out on the seat of the beast. And this causes the beast kingdom to be full of darkness. Because of the heat and plagues the people gnawed their tongues in pain. And instead of repenting, believe it or not they curse God, because of their sores and pain.

When the sixth vial is poured out on the river Euphrates and causes the water to dry up, so that the leaders of the east can prepare for battle. Then we see three unclean spirits like frogs come out of the mouth of the dragon, and out of the mouth of the beast, and out of the mouth of the false prophet. These frog like beings we are told are spirits of devils that will work miracles and cause all the kings or leaders of the earth to the battle of Armageddon. Some teach that it is some where at this time that Christ comes for his church, because of verse 15 were is says, Behold, I come as a thief. Blessed is he that watcheth, and keepeth his garments, lest he walk naked, and they see his shame.” The only statement I have to that is the vials are God wrath. We are promised not to go through God’s wrath. So maybe God is just reminding us to be ready as we read this prophecy. It kind of seams that this statement does not really fit into the scenario. But this I know it can’t contradict God’s promise of keeping us from His wrath. There are no contradictions in the word of God.

When the seventh vial is poured out it is the last and greatest judgement of all. For it says, “And there were voices, and thunders, and lightnings; and there was a great earthquake, such as was not since men were upon the earth, so mighty an earthquake, and so great. And the great city was divided into three parts, and the cities of the nations fell: and great Babylon came in remembrance before God, to give unto her the cup of the wine of the fierceness of his wrath. And every island fled away, and the mountains were not found. (Here we see some of the same judgements found in the sixths seal. We know that this is not going to happen twice.) 21And there fell upon men a great hail out of heaven, every stone about the weight of a talent: and men blasphemed God because of the plague of the hail; for the plague thereof was exceeding great.”

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